telegantmess replied to your post: tonidorsay replied to your post: Feminism as white…
telegantmess replied to your post: tonidorsay replied to your post: Feminism as white…
you don’t have to save the movement, dear. The movement doesn’t want saving. And you deserve better. Hell, we all do.
A new blog post about fluidity of ideas & identity, queer failure, and my ~~~journey as a blogger~~~ -
(Source: mattachinereview)
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How are you going to write a letter about wanted to have a dialogue with trans women, talk about how “accusations” of transphobia (if you are supporting a transphobic organization GUESS WHAT YOU ARE TRANSPHOBIC) hurt you, say you want to be a better ally, then “reject” the term cisgender because it’s “constrictive”, and at the end put a ~cutesy drawing of how you’re an ally to trans people
and then just ignore all the trans women who are genuinely responding to your call for dialogue.
That’s not wanting to be a better ally, that’s you trying to get these trans women to shut up because you want to protect your image.
I am tired of cis shit who act like they give close to a fuck about trans women.. Literally I am trying to think of one thing trans women and DMAB trans folk can proudly call theirs that doesn’t get appropriated or get us fucking screwed over by the people who pretend they give a fuck about us. I am like seriously fucking sick of it.
Did I mention she used the t-slur and was like, “I know it’s dated but I still use it bc solidarity!!”
So embarrassed for my fellow AFAB folk.
Yeah she uses it constantly. Fuck her. Fuck her shitty band. Fuck Michfest. Fuck radscum. Fcuk shitty “allies”. My femme is hard and my feminism is intersectional. Now she better get the fuck out of my movement. And if I see her in the street, ima slap the shit out of her.
full of shit AFAB people look out, Nynno will end you~~~
Here’s a rebloggable link to the blog post that gave us the word ‘radscum’. Handy for countering lies that the terms was invented by MRAs.
While this is a great link, they call anyone who disagrees with them an MRA. Unfortunately, I don’t think this will matter to them.
Oh, it won’t matter to them so much as other people who might otherwise believe the lie.
When they go on and on about how I’m a woman because I have a uterus but a trans woman isn’t because she doesn’t, they’re saying loud and clear ‘all that matters about being a woman is your sex organs and your ability to be pregnant’. I just don’t get why you want to define womanhood that way. I really don’t.
(via telegantmess)
But when I talk about white privilege I’m talking about every last white person.
Every single one of you benefit from white privilege.
That means that you benefit from racism.
And if you deny that you benefit from white privilege you are fool
Not only are you a fool, you are an idiotic who helps maintain racism.
Accurate.
“Oh, but this is not a matter of “glorifying” obesity. Glorifying obesity would take multiple TV shows depicting fat folks riding unicorns and devouring warm pies whilst counting the bags of money they’ve gained from being fat. Indeed, if simply putting fat people on television was enough to “glorify” obesity, then The Biggest Loser should have done the trick years ago. It hasn’t, because The Biggest Loser is a show built on the humiliation and punishment (self-inflicted or otherwise) of fat people. When we say that putting fat people on television will “glorify” their bodies, what we really mean is that we are uncomfortable giving fat people any attention that is not overtly negative. Because fat people need to be told: don’t be fat. Being fat means you are not entitled to a normal life. Being fat means you are not entitled to love. Being fat means you are not entitled to humanity, much less dignity.” — http://www.fatshionista.com/ (via melasaurus)
(Source: blogzillaaaaa, via telegantmess)
tonidorsay replied to your post: Feminism as white supremacy
No, it is time to recognize it for what it is — an imperfect idea that has a great and lofty purpose that is still being struggled for.
Here’s a rebloggable link to the blog post that gave us the word ‘radscum’. Handy for countering lies that the terms was invented by MRAs.
Trans nude beach
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD
THIS
IS
THE BEST IDEA I HAVE EVER SEEN ON TUMBLR
IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN SO BAD
The fact that this needs to be an idea, instead of cis people just getting the fuck over it, is really damn sad.
Oh, yeah, totally sad. But I’ve decided that I’m not waiting for them to get over their shit since I’ll be long dead before that happens.
I’ve listened to the criticisms for a while now but after a very visceral personal experience today, I think I’m really starting to get it. Think it may be time for me to get out of feminism.
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Because calling someone creepy and obsessed is easier than actually dealing with criticism.
What the hell. I only shared a few words with this dude, we didn’t even go into depth in our interaction, yet he’s already created two posts going after me on his blog? What is wrong with this dude? Obsessed.
Never fails. The first 40 or fifty times people who suddenly find themselves crtiqued on my blog respond, its always reduced to the following top ten “i don’t have time to actually think about what you write because there is so much of it it makes my eyes bleed and my head hurt” responses:
1 - You must be a dude (because women never actually write effectively criticism)
2 - You are creepy/weird/scary/unnerving
3 - You are crazy/nuts/batshit/insane/obsessive/narcissistic/egomaniac/sociopathy/psychopath/etc
4 - You are threatening me, and I am justifiably afraid that you will hurt me
5 - Look! It’s a Tranny!!! A Shemale!!!1!! Point and laugh!!!
6 - You look like a dude. I can see your adam’s apple/nosejob/wig/fake tits/beard shadow/just cause you look like a dude to me
7 - Eww! Gross! You make me wanna barf/vomit/throw up/puke you are so ugly/unattractive/unappealing/fugly/mannish/doing female wrong
8 - I don’t have to respond to you because of 1 to 8 above.
9 - WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME!!!1!! JUST LEAVE ME ALONE!!! (plus 4)
10 - Fuck you you fucking fuckity fuck, you are just evil/the devil/part of the end times/the personification of everything that I believe the opposite of/whatever I am so outta here!
Seriously. The first 40 to 50 times, it’s *always* a variation of one of those ten things.
Then suddenly they figure out a way to go after *one* thing I say. And they retort. And then I respond again, demonstrating how their retort was flawed and demonstrates the same old blah blah blah (because, really, this shit isn’t that hard after something like 100,000 times) and if they really took the time to do any kind of research, they could do serious damage to my arguments but they won’t because they are invested/too fearful/too unable to see past their own damn self/ pick your current idiocy of the moment to actually take a chance that they might possibly learn something new and find a way to use the thing they dislike the most against itself.
Like I did.
This one isn’t going to even begin to come close until probably the 100th time, by which they will have managed to reduce themselves to a point where they come after me because they figured out that when you speak the name of Dyssonance, she knows.
Seriously — whatever form of human being you are, GNQ, try to actually put together a set of basic arguments that doesn’t rely on what you believe or how you want things to be, but rather on what you can prove.
And then be able to defend it.
(yeah, yeah, I know that assumes humanness on their part, but I’m going with it.
I always love it when people immediately claim all/certain trans people are unattractive, etc. Because then I know that no matter what they claim, this is a personal thing for them. It’s not about principle, it’s about their inability to deal with the fact that this world is not designed for their pleasure and their false entitlement to other people’s bodies.
I met Dyssonance briefly at PTHC last year when I fanfemmed at her after a panel we were both in and talked about the HBS-type who was tromping on the rest of us and who she spoke up against. She was very gracious in enduring me (which is why I try to avoid talking to people I don’t know, generally). Anyway, point is, describing her as a “dude” just makes me laugh.
Nah, it wasn’t enduring. I tend to monopolize discourse in person, so it was more me trying to keep my damn mouth shut, lol.
I really liked that conference. Didn’t raise enough to be able to afford it this year. On the other hand, we do have a house. Trade off seems reasonable.
Note carefully that when they post pics of trans people, they generally don’t include photos if those trans people meet widely accepted notions of what constitutes a womanly appearance (thin, breasts, etc etc, all the usual stuff) and that actually fits into 5 and 6 for immediate go to commentary. The “hilarity” post is really jsut a version of 5, itself.
Oddly enough, ever notice that if they get criticized for their appearance, it is a bad thing because they are women, but when we get criticized by them, it is just a manifestation of a justified “common knowledge”?
That can only happen when someone has the ability to assert dominant class status over someone else. Which they do at the same time they say that they cannot have dominant class status (thus, postulating a singularity regarding that class) because they are also oppressed by such.
I’m rather surprised that they haven’t gone after me for being white. I am white, after all. Or for being black, since I am black after all. Or for being native american, since I am Lakota, after all. Then again, they’ll decide that I can only be one of those things (much like the basis of the trans truth argument that I just about had a fit over it was so terrible).Usually whichever oneis most convenient for the partiuclar attack they are going to make against me.
Now, here’s the real kicker: the only evidence that they have that I am trans, really, is my word.
And they’ve established that they don’t exactly find my word of any value.
So, as far as they are aware, I could be a cis woman — and indeed, I’ve been accused of such many times.
All of this kind of idiocy, and all they had to do was to actually sit down and take a few moments to maybe take apart the critique I did of one of their posts, or actually sit an answer the questions I ask them.
I do it when they ask.
But, then again, as the lower class person involved (the person who is less than they are), I am expected to not answer them. TO simply get angry and curse and all that.
Those ten things work on everyone else. Why shouldn’t they work on me…
Heh, fair enough about the talking. I’m sorry you’re not going to be at PTHC again this year as I really appreciated you during the panel last year. Congrats on the house, though.
I do remember you’ve talked about being accused of being cis before, and I have noticed the absence of conventionally attractive trans women in the shame-the-[slur] posts. And, yes, the “common knowledge” thing is such an unquestioned trope. It makes nakedly visible those trans* people, especially trans women, who don’t get passed as cis while pretending that they’re the only ones who exist, that there aren’t trans women and other trans* people who run into the problems of what happens when people pass you as cis and, say, want to hook up with you or date you and also want you to go along with their trans-hate. It’s all about that dominant class status, that we’re told doesn’t exist.
I also think you’re right about how they want you to be one thing at a time. That’s what they want from all of us. I can be trans* but I can’t also be queer which is what they’re telling me whenever they talk about LGB vs T, I can be trans* but I can’t be a feminist, never mind what I do and have done as a feminist. You’re only allowed to have one racial background. And, again, this relies on us not having dominant class status when they do this to us.
I really do think it’s funny that they only have your word that you’re trans. Same for me. I’ve also talked in the past about how even when I’m accepted as trans*, there seems to be some debate as to what my assigned birth sex/gender was, since I’m a non-binary trans* person. But, yes, we’re either expected to answer all questions or to only curse at them, to be unable to respond thoughtfully and critically. They’re supposed to be the critical thinkers not us. Society says so because society says we’re deluded, etc.
I am amused the 10 things don’t work on you.
that their brand of feminism hasn’t been relevant for decades.
Seriously, y’all. bell hooks was debunking your shit re: race and faux sisterhood 20+ years ago, and she wasn’t the only one.
Your assumption of universal femalehood is accepting a social framing that has several oppressive concepts embedded in it. Yes, oppressive even to you.
Its not like our criticisms are coming out of the fucking blue, here.
